Muscle Car Masters 2010

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Muscle Car Masters - September 4/5

Entry forms are now available for this popular event. Closing date is 20th August so get your entry in early!

[David Towe]

Dropped my entry in to the office at the creek today, apparently there are no garages for Group A/C this year?????

[David Paterson]

Who's getting the garages?

[David Towe]

More news!! I spoke with Phil Harrison today who advised me we are getting garages, it appears that I didn't reeive a full set of papers.

[Rod W]

Dave,
did you get that in writing or just hear say,
The forms say be considered for garage, We will not come up unless garages are allocated to C/A cars, These are expensive cars to be left out side with little or no security.

Rod

[Fast Eddie]

Dave,
did you get that in writing or just hear say,
The forms say be considered for garage, We will not come up unless garages are allocated to C/A cars, These are expensive cars to be left out side with little or no security.

Rod

I spoke to Phil Harrison at the ARDC today about a related matter, and also sought clarification on the garage allocation issue.

The answer was, "any Group C & A car that completes a garage form and submits it with their enty shall be allocated a garage".

No more excuses Rod! See you there.

[Rod W]

Ed,
Thanks for that, no doubt Lindsay shall have the entry in soon if not already in, Shaun had the same querie with the same reply so if it is all true we shall see you there.
Rod

[David Towe]

Yes, we get garages!! see you all there, it's my only outing for this year now, can't afford to do Lakeside (and M3s are to noisey anyway) or Sandown so I want to have a good meeting. Anyone interested in dinneron Friday night?? We're going to the A-League game on Saturday night.
Cheers
David

[dclift93]

were gonna try and make it down this year for a run which should be good. should we run the same gear ratios as bathurst?
And finally is it a good track as we have never had a run down there. Im guessing by the 30 or so odd entries last year and year b4 means a yes?:D

[Fast Eddie]

were gonna try and make it down this year for a run which should be good. should we run the same gear ratios as bathurst?
And finally is it a good track as we have never had a run down there. Im guessing by the 30 or so odd entries last year and year b4 means a yes?:D

There were actually 46 qualifiers last year, so yes, it is a popular event. It also attracts a big crowd, which adds to the atmosphere.

I can't give you a definitive answer on your ratios, as I don't have one of those fancy five speed gearboxes, however I run a lower ratio at Eastern Creek compared to Bathurst. 3.36 vs 3.08.

Regards

Ed

[David Towe]

I run the same as Sandown and Phillip Island at the creek. At Bathurst I ran a 4.11 and at the creek I run a 4.37. I hope this helps.

[David Towe]

Don Holland will be joining us this year in a Mazda RX3 so another name from the past joins our ranks.:)

[dclift93]

hahaha but you have much stronger gear boxes and engines than us :P we think we'll run a 3:26 cos 3.08 will be to boggy out of the corners i rekon and 3.55 will have us out of puff half way down the straight.

but yes sounds really awesome and look forward to hopefully seeing you all there :D

[shaun]

we think we'll run a 3:26 cos 3.08 will be to boggy out of the corners i rekon and 3.55 will have us out of puff half way down the straight.



i think you mean 3.36 ?

[dclift93]

ahh yes my bad sorry didnt pick that up :)

[Rod W]

I spoke to Phil Harrison at the ARDC today about a related matter, and also sought clarification on the garage allocation issue.

The answer was, "any Group C & A car that completes a garage form and submits it with their enty shall be allocated a garage".

No more excuses Rod! See you there.

Ed,
Linds has lodged entry, See you at the creek 3rd sept

[David Towe]

2010 AUSTRALIAN MUSCLE CAR MASTERS
EVENT SCHEDULE ~ SATURDAY 4 SEPTEMBER 2010
QUALIFYING AM. RACING PM.
EVENT CODE TIME CATEGORY
Drivers Briefing 0800 - 0820 Hinxman Room
1 Q1 0900 Aussie Racing Cars 20mins
2 P1 0925 Touring Car Masters 20mins
3 Q2 0950 Group Nc odd race numbers 20mins
4 Q3 1015 Group A & Group C 20mins
5 Q4 1040 Group Nb 20mins
6 Q5 1105 Group Nc even race numbers 20mins
7 Q6 1130 Touring Car Masters 20mins
8 R1 1155 Aussie Racing Cars Race 1 5 laps
9 R2 1215 Group Nc Division 2 Race 1 5 laps
10 R3 1235 Group A & Group C Race 1 5 laps
11 R4 1255 Group Nb Race 1 5 laps
12 R5 1315 Group Nc Division 1 Race 1 5 laps
13 R6 1335 Aussie Racing Cars Race 2 7 laps
14 R7 1400 Group Nc Division 2 Race 2 7 laps
15 R8 1425 Touring Car Masters Race 1 10 laps
16 R9 1455 Group A Trophy Race 7 laps
17 R10 1520 Group C Trophy Race 7 laps
18 R11 1545 Group Nb Race 2 7 laps
19 R12 1610 Group Nc Division 1 Race 2 7 laps
• Note Legend driver appearances and car show Sunday 5th September only.
• Times subject to change.
2010 AUSTRALIAN MUSCLE CAR MASTERS
EVENT SCHEDULE ~ SUNDAY 5 SEPTEMBER 2010
EVENT CODE START TIME CATEGORY
1 R13 0900 Aussie Racing Cars Race 3 5 laps
2 R14 0920 Group Nc Division 2 Race 3 5 laps
3 R15 0940 Group A Race 3 5 laps
4 R16 1000 Group C Race 3 5 laps
5 D1 1020 Heritage Hot Laps – Demo 1 5 laps
6 D2 1035 Master Blast – Demo 1 5 laps
7 R17 1050 Match Race 1 2 laps
8 R18 1103 Group Nb Race 3 5 laps
9 R19 1123 Group Nc Division 1 Race 3 5 laps
10 R20 1143 Touring Car Masters Race 2 10 laps
11 R21 1213 Australian Touring Car 5 laps
Championship 50th Anniversary Handicap
12 D3 1233 Heritage Hot Laps - Demo 2 5 laps
13 D4 1248 Master Blast Demo 2 5 laps
14 R22 1308 Match Race 2 2 laps
15 D5 1321 Featured Muscle Marques Parade 3 laps
16 R23 1335 Aussie Racing Cars Feature Race 7 laps
17 R24 1400 Group Nc Division 2 Feature Race 7 laps
18 R25 1425 Touring Car Masters Race 3 10 laps
19 R26 1455 Groups A & C Feature Race 7 laps
20 R27 1520 Group Nb Feature Race 7 laps
21 R28 1545 Group Nc Division 1 Feature Race 7 laps
22 R29 1610 Match Race 3 2 laps
23 D6 1623 Heritage Hot Laps – Demo 3 5 laps
24 D7 1638 Master Blast Demo 3 5 laps
1653 Closing & Farewell
• Legend drivers appearing throughout the day in competitor paddock
• Show n Shine on each side of grandstand
• Trade and merchandise alley located at entrance to grandstand
• Times subject to change.

[shaun]

well thats an interesting change , 2 combined A/C races and 2 individual Group races .
just out of curiousity will grid positions be progressive in each of the both catergories ?

[NSW EO]

Hi All,

Will be at the event looking at cars doing more homework for the pile of new C of D applications coming through. Looking forward to catching up with everyone.
Your friendly NSW E/O:)

[David Towe]

NSW EO, you have a PM

[Coolvet]

What are "Touring Car Masters" and "Australian Touring Cars" races?

Is everyone eligible for the handicap race event?

[Ovlov]

As the name implies, the handicap event is for vehicles representative of every ATCC winner. Nominations were called some time back. As the AVDT Volvo 240Ts all went back to Sweden at the end of '86 my privateer Volvo will be representing the '86 ATCC winner!

[David Paterson]

What are "Touring Car Masters" and "Australian Touring Cars" races?


"Touring Car Masters" is the name given to a group of cars which broke away from Group N Historics. The cars are modified beyond the linit of Group N regs and have 3D Sports Sedan logbooks. They run a National series, sponsored by Biante model cars, which supports several rounds of the V8 Supercars.

[David Paterson]

Is everyone eligible for the handicap race event?

You're car, or one of it's sisters, would be eligible, as the 1990 ATCC winner.

[Lindsay]

Touring Car Masters = the group that broke away from N C that were origionally known as Biante. Big loud ballsy cars.

Ausie race cars = big Go Carts with motor cycle engines and fiberglass body.

Nothing partiularly muscular about them but they are entertaining to watch.

Its a bit sad that they have to pad out the program with something not realy relevant to muscle cars. The same as having V8 supercar merchandise trailers trying to suck a few more dollars out of the punters.
Kind of ironic given the V8's gave Eastern Creek the ass because it wasn't good enough for them.

[shaun]

Ausie race cars = big Go Carts with motor cycle engines and fiberglass body.

Nothing partiularly muscular about them but they are entertaining to watch.

Its a bit sad that they have to pad out the program with something not realy relevant to muscle cars.

hey big fella , you,d be pleasantly surprised that some use a 1940 ford coupe and the FJ holden body shells , now aint that HISTORIC !!

[v8pnut]

If they need to pad the field, why not the Group Na guys. They seem to get left out alot

[David Paterson]

It's almost certain that my car won't be ready in time, but i've already booked the leave and the accomodation, so i'll come down & spectate. Does anyone have a pass or two to spare?

[Chris Bowden]

If they need to pad the field, why not the Group Na guys. They seem to get left out alot

True, but Group Sb and Sc with the Shelby Mustang's, Sunbeam Tigers and Carrera Porsche's would get my vote to fill the void. Good cars and great racing.

[GroupCAction]

Muscle Car Masters is getting close, can't wait for the best w/end of the year for us Sydneysiders... Anyone got their hands on the Group C/A Entry list as yet? :)

[Fast Eddie]

Muscle Car Masters is getting close, can't wait for the best w/end of the year for us Sydneysiders... Anyone got their hands on the Group C/A Entry list as yet? :)

Haven't got an entry list, but have heard numbers are around 40 thus far.

The late entry closing date is this Friday, 27th August, so there is still time for that last minute entry.

It would be good to see a capacity grid.

[dclift93]

We wont be coming this year round as the car is still... being straightend

[Rosso Corsa]

We wont be coming this year round as the car is still... being straightend

Thats a pitty would have been good to see you guys there

[number 98]

Is there an entry list available yet?

[Ovlov]

MCM passes, program and entry list arrived in mail today. 49 Gp C/A entries! A better typist will post the details.

[David Towe]

49 entries including Seton in the evo M3 and Crompton in a Sierra. 28 Group A and 21 Group C by my count although there are some cars I'm not familiar with.

[GroupCAction]

If someone would be ever so kind to type/scan the entry list up here, that would be greatly appreciated :)

[htc]

on the aussie racing cars website (www.aussieracingcars.com.au) there's a link that shows the entry list for every class racing at the muscle car masters.

[v8pnut]

No offence to Aussie Racing Cars but since when do they have any link to the Muscle Car Masters. Id rather see a Group Na race or Historic Sports Cars

[David Towe]

The full entry list is there, check it out.

[David Towe]

:confused:Rain??:cool:

[Jetwreck]

:confused:Rain??:cool:

:D:D


and there it is!!!

[shaun]

according to this , sundays looking fine

http://www.eldersweather.com.au/nsw/sydney/eastern-creek

anyway the wets need dusting off

[Bill Cutler]

To all who competed at MCM, congratulations on some great racing, often in difficult conditions !!

The M3 went well, I had probably one of the best weekends of racing ever, we got home safely, and now looking forward to Sandown!

We have a Sandown organising committee meeting tomorrow night, where the schedule will be finalised, so I will let you all know about that this week..

Bill

[NSW EO]

Sorry to those I didn't catch up with at the Masters. Unfortunately my dog became very ill Saturday night and I was unable to attend Sunday. Will try to catch up at a meeting soon.

Regards

Warren

[Jetwreck]

To all who competed at MCM, congratulations on some great racing, often in difficult conditions !!

The M3 went well, I had probably one of the best weekends of racing ever, we got home safely, and now looking forward to Sandown!

We have a Sandown organising committee meeting tomorrow night, where the schedule will be finalised, so I will let you all know about that this week..

Bill

Bill had a great time.....pity I didn't get to play much.....the DR30 was just to tired to be competitive hence the retirement on Sat......will be out and gunning for the BMW's at PI next year though:D

cheers

Craig

[David Towe]

Sorry to those I didn't catch up with at the Masters. Unfortunately my dog became very ill Saturday night and I was unable to attend Sunday. Will try to catch up at a meeting soon.

Regards

Warren

Just wondering if your signature of "as it was, so it shall be" is an indication of your position on "cheat cars" ie. cars that got away with a deviation from the approve homolgation papers in the day?

[Fast Eddie]

Some highlights from 2010 MCM Group C, Race 2 - everyone is featured!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkxYgfvrKH4

Group C & A combined grid to follow.

Regards

Ed